Sometimes when we touch, the honesty's too much

I have donated before MIZZ!!!

Have you checked the donations recently, Mizz?

I am an expert at balancing, almost as good as squishy, can I be on the changes committee?

this is another issue with putting people who dont even login, in power. Anyone seen armor or par? Things that arent an issue are becoming an issue. Lets switch the knife maddux will never use again too.

Just (let it) Die

Complains games too boring and needs to be fixed Doesn't donate Votes no on every poll suggesting a change Bitches about committee Did I cover 95% of the population yet?

Doesn't really matter. Mizz will pick and choose which changes get put in anyways.

Manu the young GOD!!

Don't tell him and palm that or they call you a whiner ;)

It takes a lot of time to implement changes. It's only respectful to those that put in that time to at least do a quick poll before doing the change. Poll, test, poll again.

mu, are you petitioning for power? Do Par and I really have any power right now? I'm pretty sure that the (sometimes/usually) whiny community holds 90% of the power in Infantry (present and past). Has the presidency of that organization shifted over to you, yet? It tends to rotate. Is there a vote soon? I'll lobby for you. Democracy is tough in Infantry -- that's why we're forced to bring F�hrer Mizzouse in from time to time to make communist changes. I agree that aside from the map changes that Apollo implemented, no discussion has led towards fixing camping/base raping (the key issues identified in the original poll). The SL settings discussion was fun, but honestly the settings are really close, if not the same. Vision is interesting (and seems like it has a good justification, at least at a small increase), but isn't going to fix camping. I think there's one primary way to fix base raping (but this is less of an issue as squad parity increases): -Implement some form of warp point so you can spawn out across the map if you were just killed at your base and want to escape the big bad team that's camping outside I think there's 3 ways to discourage camping: -Map changes (but we hate all maps) -Create some way for squads to break camps (weapon changes, class changes, etc.) (but we'll never agree on a solution for this) -Increase the penalty for camping to include being prized an item that expires in 60-180 seconds and reduces your armor/strafe speed/something while you have it (create a power play for the non-camping team) (but you'll never know what's appropriate until you test it)

Not that serious nerds

I like the idea of random ammo drops to encourage movement around the map similar to Zombie Zone. This will lead to battles in areas that are underutilized. With any change, there are problems, and one that I see is that some will complain that the opposing team was favored with drops. I don't foresee this eliminating camping, only moving battles around instead of them being in the same places every match. The content of the drop is important, and must be of a number high enough to sustain battle, but low enough to encourage capture of the next drop. Could turn out terrible, but I wouldn't mind seeing it tested.

Give in game leader ability to summon

maybe get rid of drops on death and only have random drops so that teams will have to constantly move? laws, nades, ar ammo on random

Everyone has their thoughts and opinions on what the best ideas are for the league. It's rare that everyone rallies around 1-2 ideas and much more common that we trash everyone else's ideas. The result is typically that nothing changes. The only way to fix this is to either: a) force change and poll about it later (after chances to test), b) completely democratic process of settings (doesn't really work in game design... (I got you, Mizz/Pam)), c) keep the settings the same & deal with it and/or quit playing like scared cockroaches and bullies.

so will the ammo drops only happen in the center of the map? like on a line right down the center in certain areas like rocks/mid barrel area/top building? Because if they are all over the map the amount of whining and complaining about unfair drops will be monumental. The servers will flood with nerd tears.

Place ammo depots in areas that are not utilized to force the area to be played?

Im still waiting for albert to put that warp idea in that he claims he was going to do.