Considering the original start date was slated to be the 5th as was discussed when chris first announced the SL draft league timeframe as well as again a few weeks ago when I said the 5th, having it as an option in the poll is indeed relevant as well as the following week. As for "taking action" I've had hellspawn already implement the class changes I am not a coder so I cannot mess with the UAV or flag, and hardly anyone has been sbing at all nor will they until the season is truly about to start. I was also the one who started the off season changes topic to get input from not just my "advisors" but the league itself. The map rotation is also being coded by mizzouse to go with the coinflip; the HOME team on site will get to call heads or tails, that way it can be coded on site a bit easier for chris) What we have agreed on is making the camping rules in regards to camp timer more stricter, and if we do decide to go the UAV route Id like to use dave's suggestion as a basis and prize it to the team down by 2 battles(instead of the 3 that he suggested) The only thing you've truly suggested was flags and SL style flagging which we saw how boring this SL mini season turned out. But your flag idea got pretty much countered by Champ; "A vastly superior squad can just sit there and run up the score holding that flag and we can end up having match scores much higher than we're used to. That won't really feel "good" to the lower team. If you're trying to fix camping issues you need to try and do it in a way that won't really punish the lower squads. Perhaps make it so this flag only spawns after X minutes of no kills in the match or something. This way the flag only spawns in camp fests, which usually tend to be when 2 squads of similar skill are playing each other." After your initial ideas got shot down you've yet to be informative or advisory if you would. Not to mention taking every chance in public to passive aggressively talk shit even as advisor. :thinkingemoji:

Don't take it personal, which you clearly are. Don't, seriously.. it's not an attack against you. I didn't realize we voted or discussed about implementing class changes, maybe someone can redirect me to where we polled it? Where was the map changes and the format discussed where it was set in stone what we are doing? Link to that too please. You basically just said you're adding and changing the rules again, and then adding a big change (mid season?) when Hellspawn is finished. "What we have agreed on is making the camping rules in regards to camp timer more stricter, and if we do decide to go the UAV route Id like to use dave's suggestion as a basis and prize it to the team down by 2 battles(instead of the 3 that he suggested)" Who agreed? The whole community voted on that? I still don't understand how Champion's idea countered mine? Yeah a squad can sit there and hold a flag, but they can also sit at the enemies dropship and do that if they are "vastly superior". Instead of trying to cater to matches like the #1 seed vs the lowest seed, you should be looking else where, like last season it would have been the top 4. I also suggested Ammo drops and dumps, as well as Jordan suggesting grenadiers that can bounce which may be interesting. The whole point is that you need to be open to change and take ideas and test them. Which you have not. Instead you, who has a history of cheating, and being an overall dirtbag on this game, somehow got to be in charge of the league and you get butthurt when someone questions it. I asked if that was your biggest priority, when really, you as the administrator should be looking to grow the game.

hey Backs I believe you 100% and we both got awards last season so... can you send me 10k so I can fix my eyes with lasik surgery and get better at this game?

UAV Thumbs down Flags thumbs down New class changes thumbs down. Demon talking shit about sl when he couldnt even show for his drafted team. This is rich.

this thread is surely going to end up with very good input and constructive ideas to improve the league

i would like to add my input a 5 squad league sounds terrible, should prob add a definite 6th squad before starting tyty, paypal me - only $9.99 per additional input

The class changes were implemented without a poll to see how people would react to them so that they could form their own opinion as to how they worked out and have objective data vs only subjective data to base their reasoning off of. Which I have yet to hear any feedback on; the ripper changes, AT changes, sniper changes or nader changes. So either people like them or just don't care. If you think using only subjective data with trying to implement new ideas into the game is sufficient enough that's you, id prefer to actually just test, see what people think then go ahead and vote. The coinflip and rule changes though are something I wont be able to really get data from until league actually starts. "The whole point is that you need to be open to change and take ideas and test them. Which you have not." You can refer to hellspawn whose come to me numerous times in regards to all the class changes he's thought of and I told him to try it aside from him trying to beef the sniper dmg which I still think is good at 60 especially with the sniper pdw added. And if you wanted to test the flags out since you actually get the editor to work why haven't you taken the liberty to adjust it so we can test it out and ask HS / Mizz to put up the updated versions. I cant get it to work never have, never been a coder either. My priority is to get the league back to being active and not draw out the off-season much longer otherwise people like they typically do will lose interest. It'll also give me an indication on just exactly how many squads we will indeed have, seeing as people like to wait last minute(objective data see what I did there?) before finalizing whether they'll play or not. "Instead you, who has a history of cheating, and being an overall dirtbag on this game, somehow got to be in charge of the league and you get butthurt when someone questions it" Lmao im far from butthurt im simply responding to your comments

can we finally make apollo admin?

I showed and reffed every game for the first 2 weeks of it, net went down tried restarting router, pc everything and couldn't get it to come back up. So I texted dp, got on my phone and messaged champ on site to make sure they were there to ref. But thank you for giving me feedback on everything else :)

tactical and i are starting a squad please pm tactical the following info if you would like to join: alias/es: years playing infantry: championships won across all leagues: favorite musical artists: favorite tv shows: favorite movies: favorite anime: we are only looking for people we will get along with so only send a pm to him if you like lil dicky and 13 reasons why ty

alias/es: Leak years playing infantry: 17 years (jesus christ...) championships won across all leagues: x2 USL, x1 PL favorite musical artists: Architects, Northlane, Opeth, In Flames, Gojira, etc. favorite tv shows: The Thick of It, Trailer Park Boys, Seinfeld favorite movies: The Deer Hunter, Memories of Murder, Big Lebowski, Godfather 1 & 2 (obviously) favorite anime: every Miyazaki movie, Ghost in the Shell, DBZ, Death Note please accept me

Yo...In Flames...that's my shit lol

The thing is, there are no class changes that were put in. Rocketeer was the only thing put in.

AT has 2 more rounds in clips, faster run speed no more harsh slow backpedal speed, HS changed ripper stream a little bit he added 2 dmg too it initially but reverted it back, naders 40 range is further plus the other SG, sniper now has a blue pdw instead of AP. So ????

Northlane, nice.

alias/es: too many to cont years playing infantry: 19 championships won across all leagues: 4 x USL, 1 x CTFPL, 2 x SL, 5 x SBL favorite musical artists: Modest Mouse, Opeth favorite tv shows: Game of Thrones, Match game, parks and rec favorite movies: There will be blood, The Fly, Streetcar named desire favorite anime: one punch man

alias/es :also too many to cont years playing infantry: 18 championships won across all leagues: 3X USL, maddux robbed me and mecca of our sl favorite musical artists: P!ATD, RHCP, Old nas and Old lil wayne favorite tv shows: Game of Thrones, Westworld, Rome, Black Sails favorite movies: pulp fiction, inception, basic favorite anime: Akame ga Kill, Noragami, 7 deadly sins

You 3 failed your attention to detail test. You're supposed to PM Tactical. Try again.

Staley, no one has even mentioned Hajime no Ippo. I don’t think you have any real candidates.

Nice "head staff". Advisors literally doing nothing to help the league, but talk down to everyone every chance they get. Apollo - "Me, a HEAD STAFF member, told Infinite that I AM NOT ALLOWING HIM to use this map" Jordan - "As a Head Staff member, I have decided that you only have two options. Schedule the rematch on tuesday or wednesday. I will not allow a sunday rematch."