I just loaded up the EC map in the editor and saw that you worked on the black and white mode Apollo, a pity that mode doesn't get used much. Spawn camping gets silly when you don't have the option to spec or change class without waiting. Good work.

What is black and white mode? Are you talking about those mini maps?

yah the mini map. The one where the spawns had no ds coding and no one can change class without first speccing. And speccing would take 5 seconds due to terrain, so its possible to get rape over and over without being able to spec, or leave the game.

Are you editing the most updated maps with the sand bags in front of black and white?

i am guessing it is not the most up to date now that I am examining the existing physics in place for that black and white map area. All I am seeing is scattered red impassable physics... there is no actual physics in the wall around the spawns. Do you know the name of the lvl file I should be extracting from?

Just go into each usl zone so it downloads everything you need then decompile the levels after.

i think i have the right map extracted.. however for some reason i cannot see anything other than the red impassable physic in the editor... perhaps there is some hidden command to allow me to see the orange and green ones too?

https://imgur.com/a/ibct0XK

if that image is showing true the only physic for that area, then those trenches are just useless decorations and we could just walk right through some of those rocks.

Something is definitely screwed up with your map editor. The hills aren't red physics for one, the sandbags are yellow and red. What map are you working on? And what's the map editor called and version?