Iron was using a different alias. If anything it's his fault.

Uh didn't we work you last night? Stupid bitch.

I lefit typed in ctfl f nori on the page without thinking and saw he wasn't on a team which is why I unspecced him, then when I looked at rosters more indepth for leaks first match I saw iron and felt like an idiot.

I had to ref not only my own matches but every match of the night and with the delay that had already taken place I was trying to get shit underway as soon and as smoothly as possible.

My team is bad though

No regroups, no leading, bad flag management

Leaks is good

Jesus, this is a draft league for fun and a trial. Let's not turn into a bunch of Sov's over this.

Agreed. This means nothing. You get no awards. No one will remember who won this test season.

It felt like the games lasted an eternity. If that's how long it takes for SL on Sundays count me out dawg.

Believe it or not we changed the game timer from the original 30 minutes to 20 minutes to try and have quicker games. Didn't feel much quicker honestly.

15 m next time? I noticed even in the 20m we didn't mind camping a bit

It could be that the population is too used to USL at this point. One 30 minute game of just outkilling the other team is much easier to manage than 2+ games of SL with very stagnant battles and flag management.

Some will argue that USL is "boring" and that there's no real tactics/coordination involved but it's simple and people don't have to over complicate it. We aren't playing some cutting edge competitive MMO. People play this for the novelty factor and to just chill with friends. You either cater to what the masses enjoy or you're likely to fail. There's a reason why SL was one of the first leagues to die back on SOE. They tried way too hard to fit 10lbs of shit into a 5lb bag.

I'm not trying to say that SL can't work but it's going to be pretty difficult to keep people interested in its current state. How do you solve that? I'm not really sure. You need to find a balance where games are long enough to feel important enough to log in each Sunday and short enough so that it doesn't bore people into logging off. Let's not forget that there were double headers to keep the test season short, which wouldn't happen in a normal season.

Potential solution?: 15 minutes, best of 3, unlimited deaths. Win by flags or by end game score. Sort of a hybrid USL/SL.

You could even remove 1 or 2 of the flags so there's less flags to manage and could make flag wins more frequent/easier.

I'm open to dropping the time to 15mins, maybe even 10min. Shorter time might push teams to not camp and hide all over the map. I'd rather keep the 3 death limit but not allow for OT unless the kill count is tied. So if the timer runs out and ur team has more kills, you win.

I think one of the reasons why unlimited deaths would work better in shorter games is because it gives everyone more play time overall. One of the biggest factors to keep people interested is being unspecced longer.

That SL ripper though, so gud ;)))

Petition to put SL ripper in USL ASAP.

Champion: "I'm not trying to say that SL can't work but it's going to be pretty difficult to keep people interested in its current state. How do you solve that? I'm not really sure."

Change to USL settings, change to EC map, remove 3 life rule.

Add flags here https://imgur.com/a/fY3HQ01

True. I'm open to removing the 3 death-limit if we drop the time limit to like 10-15 mins. If it'll get everyone to play SL then its worth a shot.

3 death limit 15 m bo3, bit longer flag timer but remove mid flags

Noobs who die a lot saying remove 3 death limit... You can't remove 3 death limit, thats what SL stands for... You gotta be smart and conserve your deaths... Theres nothing more exciting than Team A has only 5 marines left Team B has 2 medics and 1 marine left. WHO WILL WIN?.. WILL THE SOLE MARINE WIN? WILL THE 5 MARINES WIN? FIND OUT NEXT WEEK ON DRAGON BALL Z

I AGREE. keep the 3 death rule

Bro why you SG me in the trees like that bro? Sov yelled at me for that =/

I like death limits, I saw some good players make real dumb mistakes. I enjoy in game bad decisions being punished. 15 minutes might help movement and engagement and is worth a try. I think personally SL is more fun to play than watch. So I understand that boredom factor. Especially if you're playing multiple matches a night. I don't think any of the flags should be moved or removed. Maybe create a new map for it or use that new USL map with flags added to it.

We have a league thats TDM, death limits are part of SL. It's part of the strategy of who you want pushing first and limiting effectivess of players who might be skilled, but might be too aggressive at times and get punished. If you don't want death limits lets just play USL forever.