Both apollos map and bombs map are new to me as each other. If I could vote on these 2, I would repoll mine to tuckers playpen.

I do like the idea of home teams choosing to take a pick at a map or what side to play on opposing teams map choice.

edit: plus apollos map has someone working to make it better, not sure if changes would happen as frequent as on bombs

I second Apollos map over bombs...

But favor EC/KR over Apollos if the fixes aren't made.

Only change needed on bomb's map is the top right corner, so every part of the map is worth going to.
Apollo map still has bugs and every battle has been 90% south. Khaos told him changes to be made but i really doubt it will be implemented. The camps are far worse. Leading is not needed at all. You can play reactive and probably be a great leader doing so, which makes sense why certain squads want this map to work.
ET is in 10 days so when are we going to get this poll up. Just change the poll to Bomb's or Apollo's map only. Not sure why the admin's are holding out for a map that will still need more revisions and physics fixed. Like I told champion, next season they should just do a new map only season. Even an altered version of a map would be fine. You can do this every three seasons so people can continue to make maps and will keep it fresh.
Love you apollo.

I strongly disagree about camping being worse, there are so many angles to watch. And easier chokes to push then say.. south mesa on KR or south rocks on EC..I will say that battles seem a lot longer and more drawn out - is that a bad thing? I don't know.

Leading not being needed? I don't know where that is coming from, maybe thats why you guys were getting destroyed by Snakes/Aftermath/friends on my map.

And a lot of the suggestions khaos had made were already edited on my map.

I think there are a lot of battles south, by weed, by kr and north of the cave.. with a lot even being north of KR. Of course there are things that need to be fixed but it's not really unplayable. I still enjoy sbing on it and as soon as Palm or Mizz can help me with the cave situation I think it'll be a lot more fun.

Love u sov

I've only sb'd one squad and we beat friends by 40. Even a mix team with minimal leading beat friends by 20. " .I will say that battles seem a lot longer and more drawn out - is that a bad thing? " Wasn't the whole reason we were bored of KR and EC was to stop having these slow paced battles in the same spot over and over? Wait isn't that the reason we are bored of those maps? All the fights are happening in the same spots because it's easier to hold out against the stronger squads.

That is exactly what's happening with south of rocks. You can say all these battles can happen in other places on your map but people aren't just going there at all. Oh well you did say you were super impartial so it's probably just me :).
Apollo you should post all these angles squad can do to break south for both sides. It sure will help prove your point.

I'm sure you've only sb'd one squad on that map sov, are you forgetting the beating we gave you while you bitched about how bad the map was the whole game?

A long battle isn't boring, a stalemate is. (Some great long battles on KR North/South of the river, or on EC map in the open outside colle base)

Example - Sitting in south rocks on EC Map, waiting for the enemy to push. You can't go get a better angle to focus fire, you basically have to push a small choke point. On this map the only small choke point is the tunnel (no squad is going to camp there) Majority of the places you can spread out, focus out the medics, etc and outplay them.

And the reason most people don't want KR is because it isn't balanced, collective has the advantage always.

manu, my map shouldn't be really getting many updates at all...it's basically a finished product and has already been refined down pretty well. if someones going to change the upper right corner, then go for it but it's not a brand new map that still has those initial things to work out like apollos...it's been played on and it's already been through most of the refining stages.

someone get like Palm or someone to do those like red vs blue bases on the side though so peeps can use that when its low pop

I had a genuinely good time in all the sbs yesterday on Bomb's map. Forced a lot of battles north and changed it up almost every other battle. Impossible to camp that map too which is a huge plus.

Bomb's map has a lot of chokes and small ones at that but is balanced out with a lot of open space. This map is good but every unforgiving for inexperience leaders.

Apollo's map imo

Strongly prefer Bomb's map myself.

omg this map drama still isn't over. let's just play on the zombie zone map

In the name of balance, we should just go with LZ Assault.

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"The camps are far worse. Leading is not needed at all. You can play reactive and probably be a great leader doing so, which makes sense why certain squads want this map to work."

If that's actually true, it's a good thing. Results will be based off of player skill and who has numbers/can react better in those situations.

Why don't you guys just have a league for talking about maps since 6 of the topics on the first page are about maps.

This probably what it's like when the nfl is trying to decide which city will host the Super Bowl

Except they dont need to rebuild the cities