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Champion Feb 19, 2017 208 replies 4366 views
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OP Webmaster 👑 x24 👑 Gentlemen CO
Jarry I'm the only one shitting rings. Call me Tom Brady.
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I am awfully constipated.
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💎 x5 Gentlemen
So i think I got a good solution that solves alot of the issues(mainly inactive players).

Push the cap alot higher / no cap. This will allow teams to add players like devil or pandy or any inactives easily.
Set limit on number of top players ~5(points or tiers to determine eligibility). This will prevent extreme stacking. Although stacked teams won't matter as much due to my final point.
All game are played with a lower cap number(1200?). This will prevent an allstar lineup from playing and make it more competive.

Obviously numbers need to be set to find a balance but I think this will make it easy for semi active players to be rostered increasing the playerbase while also making it more competitve.
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⭐ x3 Gentlemen
That's a pretty good idea. Make it so that you can have as many people as you want on your squad but only 1100 total in points in the game. High 5 fellow Canadian
OP Webmaster 👑 x24 👑 Gentlemen CO
Seems a bit complex and squads would just hoard people
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Part of the reason to have a salary cap is to make sure a squad cant have 3-4 starters on the bench. Its not just about starting lineups. I think that adds more complication with questionable benefit. This is already way too many hoops to jump through for Apollo.
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r, politely, a moment of your time; please, if you have it. Though who does these days? This crazy world seems to move faster and faster, day by day. Sometimes, I get so lost in it.

My apologies. Curtly, let me impose upon you an inquiry concerning a curiosity I did witness inside a jolly good match of Combined Arms. No, I insist on spelling Combined Arms out for purposes of inclusivity to all the novices of our most braggart of abbreviations. This inclusivity is a promise I made to my dying aunt who I'm sure is looking down upon us from that place in the sky. I think it's called an airplane. Oh, she is not dead yet, but we're all dying, are we not? I just thought I would mention that.

In any case, I want to make another unwarranted mention of a random soul by the name of C.L.G. Doublelift, who I am sure is meant be a colonel if not for the corrupted prefix before his name. And this is another reason I am steadfastly against abbreviation. Oh, don't get me started. You are getting me started, please. STOP. Oh, you tortuous starter! A lake of fire awaits you after our slow, mortal deaths!

Anyhow, my intermittent and pointless encounter with Colonel G. Doublelift was peppered with those of another seemingly quarrelsome man I knew from my youth. Someone with whom I believe you should be well acquainted..? Ah, yes, I speak of your fortuitous confidant and lover whose name not be uttered. Kaze. The name uttered, the lightning strikes!

Yes, I do suspect your friend to masquerade as that daring colonel but it's of little consequence and I will take my suspicion to the grave (to which we are all headed, as a friendly reminder.) Honestly, I'll probably forget this strangely coherent, yet surprisingly drunken correspondence by next Tuesday. Such is life.

No, I write to you about something else.

Kaze was always a good shot, I'll give him that.. which makes my most recent encounter with him all the more perplexing. Simply, he was dreafully awful. If I didn't know better I'd say he was an impostor or a fraud, though I hesitate to do so, as saying those sorts of things at an inopportune time tends to get one shot. Though, surely not by this doppelganger of a KaZe, he couldn't have hit a barn door on the side of, oh, a barn door on the side of.. He couldn't hit a barn door with a rake or something, how does that go? He couldn't hit a barn door with.. well, any sort of antique weaponry, I must say. Though, that is a rather unfair illustration to make about him. He should be allowed access to right and proper modern weaponry, of course.

Hoho, I digest, not knowing the reason for my digestion! This veil of time shrouding my vision! This ruinous and disheveled veil from the cheapest of bridal shops made from discounted fabric bartered for in a seedy Hobby Lobby down by the piers. This barbaric, capricious veil strangling my thought and smothering my perceptions!

My mind fading, just like that night.

Maybe it was my desire to see the yacht of my unrequited nemesis scuttled on the shore of apparent mediocrity. Or maybe it was the alcoholic elixir I had conjured from a bottle of vanilla extract and Listerine.

I can't say.

But it was not the Kaze I once knew, that much I can say. Though, perhaps I never knew him at all. Our myriad jostlings offering no insight beyond the facade of our aliases. How well can we know others when we barely know ourselves?

Well, perchance, you can shed some light on this matter, my dearest Z. You always were a good chap, whatever the hell that is. I would cover my nose if I were ever to sneeze in your company. And that's what I call a friend. Someone that will endeavour to not blow snot and mucus upon you from their protuberance of a nose.

And thus, in ironic paradox, let us pause for a few moments in mourning for the loss of time spent reading these scraps of text. Though, as Bertrand Russell (who is completely dead now and has perished from this earthen sphere, so shall we all) did relate: It's not wasted time if it's time you enjoyed wasting.

I am sorry for wasting your time.
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🛡️ x3 Phenylephrine HCI
lLMAO!!! NOS THE GOD
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⭐ x5 🤝 Kays Krew 3
I'd like to say that Fausto, Fax and I appreciate all of the input that everyone has put forth so far, as most threads of these type turn out to be nothing of much use. Concerning this next season, it seems to be that salary has won the poll. While I agree with Sov that any benefit bestowed upon the salary cap is most likely due to inactivity caused by the double round robin, it is our imperative as the administrative team to implement that which is favored by the community. It is our responsibility to work with what the community chooses, and make it as competitive as possible.

To that end, we're interested in ways to make the salary cap better and more applicable to the current community. To offer a bit of insight to what we're thinking: we believe that inactivity needs to weigh much more in a player's salary cost than it currently does. Currently, it reduces a player's cost by 20% if they have played 0 regular season games over the past 3 seasons, and scales from there. We're going to increase that drastically. While a salary league may not include as many overall players as an FFA league, we must balance that against the overall competition of the league. It's our opinion that an FFA league allows the concentration of the top 30 or so within 2-3 squads, instead of the somewhat further spread that we've seen recently. By no means is it perfect, but we believe it's better, and we hope to make it more inclusive.

Now that salary has been decided upon, where do we go from here? We need updated ratings for all players. A new ratings sheet will be released soon, but we're interested in any ideas that you have to make the ratings more accurate so that everyone is priced as best as possible. Maybe this is an activity reduction applied to each rating, eliminating the activity reduction for a player's cost, or applied in addition to it. Maybe this is rating a player in multiple areas of play with different weightings for each area, and averaging the numbers together. We're very interested in what you have to say, and have been paying attention to a few ideas already mentioned, but we need to move soon (within the next day or two).

Regarding the salary cap: It's our opinion that it is always easier to raise, rather than lower, it. The effect of the activity reduction determines where the salary cap should be, but we guess that it will be somewhere between 1150-1200. The general consensus seems to be that it was a bit too high this season. While that may be true, we do wish to be more inclusive regarding inactive players, so this is still under decision.

Regarding the roster minimum: I'm of the opinion that increasing the roster minimum increases the competition level and inclusiveness of the league overall when done right, though it can exclude many higher cost, inactive players. Instead of 12, say that you're now required to have 15 players on your squad. In a salary league with a cap of 1200, that means your average cost for each player reduces from 100 to 80. With a larger reduction for activity, it's difficult to say what this would mean without a hard number for the salary cap, roster minimum, and player costs, but I always think it's better to increase the roster minimum in a salary cap league. I suppose there's probably a formula to be done regarding the salary cost of the average player, and what would include the most players. It's my opinion that the easiest way to increase competition is to increase the roster minimum while maintaining an inclusive salary cap.

We will be releasing new polls within the upcoming days regarding salary cap, minimum, and other areas to understand where the community stands. These polls will most likely be after the ratings/costs are finalized, so that each voter can make an informed decision by knowing what a potential squad may look like. There is no singular opinion driving the administrative team, only that which the community decides is important. The administrative team is the tool to implement what you wish to see, because we are here for you and will do whatever is necessary to complete what the community wants, even if it goes against our own individual opinions. So please voice your opinion, vote, and make yourself heard.

We appreciate the productive discussion thus far, and hope it continues. Thanks for your feedback, keep it coming!
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💎 x24 Gentlemen CO
Fix the salary cost.
Sov - 220
Champion - 235

Make it simple. Tier 1 players should be the same. If you want to make them feel unique for having some additional impact, leading/activity, then give them an incremental increase compare to other tier 1 players.
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League Analyst 💎 x10 🥇 Gentlemen
Need blind ratings, every rarer gets their own sheet. The voters last year just copied each other.
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💎 x24 Gentlemen CO
Why would you reduce cap when teams could barely show 7s including playoffs.
Last season we went with 1250/1225 and WH showed 6 in semi-finals, with our 7 being a reserved in the finals. Overwatch showed 6 and got their 7th halfway in the game. Mecca squad last season showed 7 as well.
Edit: Now I remember that only two squads sb'd in that season; rejects and palms squad. The game was literally dead by the halfway point.
Edited Feb 22, 2017
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💎 x5 Gentlemen
Unlimited roster cap. We need to add everyone who might only play 1 game on a squad to increase the playerbase.

Champ brought up a good counter argument in hoarding players. Limit active players(half games played),limit top players, roster limit, insert other ideas...

Not necessary to set a cap/game limit but still an option. I don't see a need for salary system in general but if we are gonna use it lets have it match only.
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💎 x5 Gentlemen
Also everyone wants to focus on weapons for class changes. There are other ways to improve classes/gameplay and maybe even promote more aggresiveness.

How about everyone spawns with a stimpack. Instead of health though it gives you a speed burst of 50% for 10sec. Could make battles alot more dynamic and create new tactics.
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⭐ x2 Kays Krew 3
Dave - you realize that last season people voted against the salary in the poll correct? What is the point of a poll if you only choose to change things based on what you want? Not trying to be passive aggressive, just honestly trying to understand your thought process.. do the polls matter or don't they? Please respond to this with a legitimate and valid answer.

But since it's going to be salary because you decided it, I agree it should be in tiers 1-4. Tier1 being the top players in the league - ER/Sov/Champ etc.. with Tier4 being the newer players or severely inactive players. Activity needs to be a huge factor in ratings to make the shitty salary thing viable. Khaos is still close to 200 and hasn't been active since season 6. Either add a challenge system to challenge ratings if they are too high/low, or let more people rate to balance out false ratings.
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i am not for the idea of having more players and having less salary to work with. how are you going to ask a squad capt to do more with less? There are not enough "average" cost players around to make this idea work. i think the cap and roster min is ok as it is.

I do agree with mecca as well raters need to not be able to copy each other since that is what seemed to happen.

I agree with apollo in a tier system
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League Analyst 💎 x10 🥇 Gentlemen
I had the entire tier system broken down when we first did salary if we do want to do that
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💎 x17 🤝 Gentlemen
Oh so now we go based on what the poll says, ok.
Advisor 💎 x13 🔱 Monkey Business CO
put me in tier 4 im bad
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💎 x10 🤝 Monkey Business
Put me im tier 5
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