Demon says - "3.4 is just explaining that you cannot use an NT if your squad has enough squad-joined players.( players in red technically are squadjoined players)"

Wrong. Players in red are not technically squad-joined players, as they have already been defined as NT's in 3.1 as "those who recently joined a squad that are still on a wait period."

By this many people you mean you and riley who are directly impacted by losing the 2 players that carried your group to a win your first week.

And even if it wasnt you id still enforce the rule as it has been enforced over the past seasons until dp myself and champ get time in the off season to review and revise IF needed as I stated in the previous post.

You don't need to revise anything. Just read the rules and enforce them as they are written. Then revise them to be what you want them to be after the season if need be.

Demon says - "3.4 is just explaining that you cannot use an NT if your squad has enough squad-joined players.( players in red technically are squadjoined players)"

Wrong. Players in red are not technically squad-joined players, as they have already been defined as NT's in 3.1 as "those who recently joined a squad that are still on a wait period."

Wow. All I see is the same poat written 35 different times. Fun.

So what you are saying is that you are going to follow what others have done in the past, rather than what the rules actually state.

So what are you going to be revisiting after the season? Whether to re-write the rules to fit the way that you administrate? Or whether to just do what you want regardless of what the rules state on a long-term basis, because that's what admins in the past have done?

I don't understand what the problem is here. If you guys just read the rules that are on the website and enforce them, which is your job, instead of following past administration's ignorance of what is written out plain as day on the rules page we wouldn't be having this debate right now.

By the same 2 people

"especially if there is many people discussing the issue"

Why is Metal shaking... I think he feels the HEDCHOT coming soon.

I've never seen someone so determined and persistent over such a meaningless issue even when they're completely wrong.

nt players and anyone considered to be an nt are allowed to play until playoffs where they will need permission to be used. simple as that.

I've never seen someone write so many responses with such little content. Every one of my posts contains relevant points, and you just stick your head in the sand and say "nope sorry we are going to do it the way that we want, not the way that the rules are written"

Good talk

Ok so lets look at this.

3.1 Non-Team Players are players that are not on any current season roster, or those who recently joined a squad that are still on a wait period.

That is your rule as defined by the site. No objection.

3.4 NT players can only be used if there are no other members of the squad present. (Example: A captain cannot choose to use an NT when a member of his squad is in spec.)

Cool. We are still following.

3.5 Non-Team Players are allowed by default. For Playoffs, allowing NT players must be agreed upon by both squad Captains.

And by your explanation:
3.5 explains that NTs are allowed by default (should you need them) until playoffs when refs have to ask if captains want to allow NTs.
The reason 3.5 was implemented if I remember correctly is because some of the lower tier squads come mid season stopped showing enough which is why ultimately we started allowing players to NT by default instead of forcing forfeits and ultimately hurting the league.




So all of that said. An NT is someone still on a wait period, they are allowed only if needed (your words not mine) until playoffs. And 3.5 was only implemented to help squads that do not show enough, meaning that an opposing captain could not decline a team a chance if and only if they did not show enough to play.

You have what is clearly defined as a NT. And the only reason a squad would need an NT and it be allowed would be if you did not have enough online from your eligible roster.

You are picking and choosing which rules you are using even as clearly you laid out with your own definition if you use them all in conjunction you would see they are ineligible UNLESS they NEED an NT. Meaning they had no other eligible players online to play.

honest question - why is this a discussion 58 seasons into usl when it's never been (or needed) discussion before

because niggas dont wanna get HEDCHOTTED.

because everyone understands the rules except these 2.

they act like this is their first time playing the game and that the rules have not always been this way.

Because there were rules that prevented this in the past the were enforced, however now its all voided by 3.5 that Eric even admitted was only to keep captains from allowing NTs should a squad need them.

Champ, Eric, and dp are ignoring that 3.1 defines a wait period player as an NT, and that 3.4 says that no NTs are allowed if they have members in spec.

3.5 just states if they don't have enough I can't stop them from using an NT.


and Backs I'm definitely not worried about you "hedchotting" anyone you illiterate fuck.

Nigga stfu, you sound really worried... You created a 5 page argument on forums, you look pretty worried. I can't wait to macro your bitch ass, you're better off forfeiting niggas real talk...

What the hell