I will just carry this over from the Captains Forum:

I really really had to contemplate this, especially with how everything went down last week, however, I am writing this not just from a Black Spades point, but also from the viewpoint of upholding the validity and integrity of the league. At the beginning of the match there were 8 people from both squads and it was obviously stated and noted that Pinecone logged off to make Infamous only have 7 people. Not only is this against the rules of USL, it is an absolute travesty that you cannot play a squad with your own squad members, that you could beat playing down a man yourself. Now this is all debatable whether or not she was on etc, HOWEVER, when pinecone logs onto the alias Sponge to watch the game under a hidden alias, that is a direct slap to the face of the league and to Black Spades. This was verified by seeing physically that pinecone was on discord playing Infantry after being on Fortnite and being identified by an admin and then banned from the arena. As well, she even admitted to leaving to hide their numbers and the SS from Discord is saved.

This is not enough, whether or not Apollo is lagging, is not the point, that is your problem and you cannot just hide players to hide your numbers against the squad you are facing; that is called cheating. I am calling for Infamous to be found deemed to be cheating in direct violation of the USL rules and should have to forfeit the match and as a result of the forfeit shall be DQ'd from the season and their playoff spot awarded to the next squad.

https://ibb.co/f215vS

yawn

wow they just can't stop cheating

I logged off and made no secret of it. Nobody from Infamous asked me to log off. Period.

can we just ban sov and y already

No secret of it but you logged back in under a different alias to hide and watch

Nobody on this squad told her to log off, I am not even lying about that. She doesn't know the rules and logged off on her own free will then played fortnite for abit I guess (idk). Show me in the rules where it says someone can't log off? One individual on a squad (who is new and doesn't even know the fucking rules) doesn't give anyone the right to DQ someone from the league. It wasn't cheating. And if the ref or staff would have FORCED us to go 8s, well we COULDNT have at that point, because SHE HAD LOGGED OFF and nobody knew she was on a different name.
You're honestly pathetic, rematch if you want. It's not going to make a difference.. and you can't force who we show to the rematch. Just take your fucking loss, stop crying it was an even 7v7 game.

Correct. Again, no secret. Do you think I don't know people can know what my alias is? I literally wanted to watch the game and I am being 100 percent honest when I say that I didn't think it would be a big fucking deal to come on and watch the game still. Nobody said I could or should log on an alias and do this. I did it all on my own. Ban me.

An individual leaving on their own accord pre match and you think DQing a whole squad is justified?

No one asked for pinecone to leave in chat or on discord

bird stop editing your posts.

fuck off lmao.

To say that "Infamous to be found deemed to be cheating in direct violation of the USL rules and should have to forfeit the match and as a result of the forfeit shall be DQ'd from the season and their playoff spot awarded to the next squad" is laughable.

lmao yeah ban pinecone for logging out (without telling us) and going on a secret alias so everyone doesn't ask "why isn't pinecone in?" We would have put her in, 100% but after she left, Bowen and Riley made assumptions like we told her to log off and they were crying the whole game. If she was being all shady, do you think she would legit go into sonichu pub discord and say that to the fucking admin? lmao get real.

Let'ss make America great again and ban y and sov

To be fair I would actually assume she was just logging out and not being forced out, so no I never made that sort of assumption. I will say she did tell you she was doing it, because she typed it out in Sonichu discord and then logged, but do I think you guys forced her to in order to gain an advantage? No.

So no, I don't think the entirety of Infamous should be flat out punished for it. Pinecone even is new and doesn't know the rules, so just a "hey...don't do that shit" is still fine (in my opinion). Due to the integrity of the whole situation and how chaotic everything was around it, Black Spades, as far as I know, is still asking for appeal.

I can't speak for all of Infamous but I think a rematch would be much more fair. Again, to say Infamous should be "disqualified from the season" is laughable and absurd. Why would you say that, Big Bird?
Thank you, Bowen, for recognizing that I'm a newer player.
I'm sorry to everyone (mainly my team) for logging off intentionally. For the 8th time, nobody asked me to.

Yeah I am not in Sonichu discord (and have never been in), we would have gone 8s if she had stayed (like we did last week) Nobody even spoke to pinecone pre-game. Riley appealing in captains chat, for who knows why. You can't force a lineup in an appeal. So if we show up with the same lineup as last time and only have 7s, it will prove nothing and will just be a waste of time. Especially because at the beginning of the match in the captains chat you said it was fine and I said "are you sure its fine?" and you confirmed.
Riley you got beat fair and square, sorry pinecone logged out (on her own free will) get over it, you lost an even 7v7.

Should ban Apollo for playoffs since it was him telling Pinecone to log off.





Infamous such a classy squad.

SHAME

if we went 8s we would have just won by a larger margin. its embarassing that u guys are even contesting this