Unlimited ammo was taken out and increased ammo was put in. Marines now have 450 with medics carrying that much. Misfires are still out so we'll test this with our current ammo increase.

over 50% voted to increase the vision, make a new poll with two increased options and then implement the winner

Vision no matter what increase is a huge change. You would be able to see into north mid from outside of south door if you increase it. Currently stops before north mid opening.

only 12% of the population voted on unlimited ammo and you put it in anyways, if squads try it and don't like having more fights in an sb then just take it out

The poll is a little misleading. Technically more people voted for some kind of vision increase than to not increase it. 28 vs 22. The poll should have just been a Yes/No on whether vision should be increased or not.

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Fine, increase it to what 10 since it wont by a vote? Our updates went from fixing camping to fixing the whole zone, and no increased vision does not fix camping. You cant tell they are camping without knowing where they are and you cant stop camping when you do know.

who said anything about camping? Putting in the least significant change would probably be the smart thing to do, or you could just put up unlimited vision and see what happens

Vision is now longer than a law range.

It's easy to see that a clear majority would like vision distance to be increased. I have added a new poll to identify what the player's want. I removed the highest (50%) and the lowest (0%) options to try and identify the middle ground that players want.

Vision distance may not affect camping directly. It does increase the chances that there will be a battle. There are many instances where squads are looking to fight, but simply don't see each other on the map even if it's an open space.

THIS WHOLE THING STARTED BECAUSE WE WANTED TO FIX THE CAMPING COMPLAINTS. You know, the poll everyone voted on about being the main issue? Fucking christ. Now it turned into this Yankee eol freak show.

So medics and marines now spawning with 450 ammo fixes the camping problem? Great, revert this change and lets start the season, looking forward to no camping ever again

It doesn't. But according to the change committee that problem will get fixed by having 0 respawn delay, unlimited ammo, vision that you can see china from New York, etc etc. This is starting to get dumb.

I believe the increase in ammo will help the league more than hurt the league. The unlimited ammo was unrealistic; even in GTA games, you have certain ammo.

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The map is the biggest issue in camping, if there are areas that are easy to defend and difficult to push squads are going to utilize that. Hopefully this new EC map helps with the south rocks change, but it will never be perfect.

Nobody on the change committee discussed or implemented the unlimited ammo. I don't know where that came from or why.

I did a poll asking about respawn time being reduce. Because maintaining current won the poll by 1 vote, it will not be address. Ironically, this is probably the most insignificant change you could ever think of and I think most players would enjoy it if it was slightly reduced.

The current poll regarding vision length, had the majority of players supporting increasing the vision. I have now added a clarifying poll for people to respond to.

The level of hostility and unproductive comments are not helpful. If you have an idea you would like us to investigate, please message me privately. I will probably miss it in the forum spam.

How does that help the camping issue? I really want to know.

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